The Burnouts: Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni Launch Phia
Why we dropped out of Stanford to build this app (ft. the Phia team)
April 25, 2025

The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia
Why we dropped out of Stanford to build this app (ft. the Phia team)
CHAPTERS
00:00 – Launch day is HERE
01:12 – The Zoom roast that got our CPO hired
05:40 – Pivoting the product after tough feedback
10:00 – From Instagram design to full-time UX
15:25 – Interning, accounting, and off-boarding your ex
20:45 – Quitting jobs, joining podcasts, and saying yes fast
24:00 – Real friends give real feedback
26:10 – What’s next for Phia
As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out. The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia is a podcast from Alex Cooper‘s Unwell Network, which recently joined the SiriusXM Podcast Network.
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